Saturday, March 12, 2050

Larouche Cult origins of the 911 Truth Movement

One of the earlier 911 conspiracy films is a good start to see the relationships at the root of the artificial 911 conspiracy cult culture:

911: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold

Year Released 
2005 
Running Time 
2 Hours 6 Minutes 
Director(s) Anthony J. Hilder Producer(s) Jeffery Friesen, Anthony J. Hilder, Victor Tory, Larry Shea 
Writer(s) Music Sir Evan Scott Narrator(s) Editor(s) Krett Gusaraki, Gary Hoffman 
Language English 
Description
It’s not just about the murder of 3,000 people. It’s about Serial Killers in control of the U.S. Government. It’s about “CREATING” the JUSTIFICATION FOR WAR – AGAINST ISLAM. It’s about “SETTING THE STAGE” for WORLD GOVERNMENT – through WORLD WAR. It’s about opening fire upon millions of innocent people in their homes, villages and cities. It’s about the Transference of power from the People to the President, and the police. It’s about HIGH TREASON. It’s about the betrayal of every Nation and every person on Planet Earth. It’s about creating a NEO-NAZI “CASHIST SUPER STATE.” It’s about “the Plan” to reduce the population by 80%. It’s about “KILLING, CONTROLLING OR INCARCERATING” 4 out of 5 people – in the world. 911 – THE GREATEST LIE EVER SOLD is a film about madness, mayhem and mass murder. 911 is about the greatest “Con Job” the world has ever known. It’s about LIES, DECEPTION, CRIME, CORRUPTION, CRUELTY & THEFT as never before known in human history. It’s about Satanic Ceremonial Sacrifice. It’s about Torture. It’s about controlling the supply of Heroin. It’s about Oil. It’s about establishing a Luciferian NEW WORLD ORDER for “A THOUSAND POINTS OF LIGHT.” This film is about an Alliance of the Legitimate Left & Right coming together – exposing an Evilarchy, who rules from the Center. It’s about hope. Did Bush have prior knowledge about the attack? Yes! The president admitted he was watching television as the first plane hit the North Tower of the World Trade Center. But it wasn’t on Commercial TV. It was on “Closed Circuit CIA.” Were the Twin Towers imploded? Yes! It wasn’t by Arabs, but rather U.S. Agents who pulled the switch. Our film is about reality in the raw ferocious form. 

 Guest Commentators: Jack McLamb, Kenn Thomas, Jim Marrs, Gary Busey, Eric Hufschmid, John Buchanan, Erskne, Will Thomas, Michael Tsarian, Erika, Former Congressman William Dannemeyer, Congressman Butch Otter, Lyndon LaRouche, Phil Berg, Ellen Mariani, Carol Brouillet, Brian McCrae, Willis Carto, Daniel Hopsicker, Dr, Bruce Winslow, GAry Richard Arnold, Dr, Stanley Monteith, Ralph Epperson, Laura Burnett, Paul Borraccio, Larry Shea, Jeff Friesen, Virginia Price, Clay Douglas, Ingri Cassel, Ian Woods, Barrie Swicker, Simon Aronowitz, Michael Ruppert, more

Searching of many of these personalities will reveal long ties to destructive cults or violent patriot groups, often using the official Libertarian Party as a cover.  Willis Carto is a notorious anti Semite and Holocaust denier, with connections to Neo Nazis as well as David Duke and Ron Paul. Lyndon LaRouche, (with associate Phil Berg)  has a sordid history so long it is only dwarfed by the antics of Scientology.  Like Scientology, there are multiple websites to expose Larouche and his cult for the right wing Nazi friendly front it is:

http://www.lyndonlarouche.org/index.html
http://american-lycurgus.blogspot.com/
http://laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php
http://www.rickross.com/groups/larouche.html

It's very important to read this detail about Larouche's movement from that other wiki:  


Lyndon LaRouche and the LaRouche movement have expressed views on a wide variety of topics. The LaRouche movement is made up of activists who follow LaRouche's views.[1][2]


 "The LaRouche movement is made up of activists who follow LaRouche's views."
This is important to highlight because in less than a couple years, Larouche would be replaced in the 911 Truth scene by his long time right hand man Webster Tarpley.   This had to be a deliberate ploy to confuse potential recuits who might be turned off by the LaRouche brand.

Another thing to understand is the difference between Eyes Open and Eyes Closed conspiracy adherents.    In short, "Eyes Open" know it's a scam.  These are the handful of leaders who direct the propaganda and manipulate the Eyes Closed, people who have come to believe some or all of the conspiracy propaganda.   Many of these people started with questioning a valid political point, say the circumstances surrounding Guantanamo detainees.  They are approached at peace marches, rallies or online with people who appear to have answers and their frustration with the apparent dishonesty of credible sources(sometimes a valid complaint) makes the easy answers of a conspiracy inside the government very seductive.  Irresponsible, secretive political maneuvering shares the blame in creating a situation where, without any information, it's easy for people to think anything could be true and open to the idea the New World Order is planning to annihilate half the population.

Not everyone takes the bait, but those that do are given a soft sell version of what will become full blown Jew baiting in years or months, depending on the current Eyes Open agenda.   It doesn't matter where it begins, it alwayes ends in blaming the Jews.   A succinct summary at Rick Ross:
 http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,10501
 i think this group is a cult who has very agreeble info for collage aged teens and twentie somthings, stuff about conspiracies and corrupt gov. but as you get sucked further in the group the ideals and beliefs get more and more distorted from reality untill you are compitely unable to relate to the average joe because you beleive satanic beast rule the world and you cult needs to bring forth the armageddon to save humanity and impliment larouche as the president.... BEWARE OF THIS CULT,,,,,
 By that time the adherent either has left, or has been manipulated into compartmentalizing their experience by associating with a sub clique that pretends to not subscribe to the crazier aspects, but will network with people who do under the ruberick of "free speech".

Adherents may be radicalized by stage managed attacks from an outside group or a split group.  Such antics have a dual purpose: they "prove" there are agents in the ranks and the "gubmint" is out to get them, and the help bond the adherent emotionally to the group/subgroup.  Very rarely to adherents breakaway or "wake up" from their Eyes Closed stupor.  Those that do drift usually drift away and avoid confrontation because they realize how much they were deceived into sharing with the sleazy network.    Thus the Eyes Open faggots learn they can con people again and again and get away with it, leading to extreme delusional assumptions they can get away with anything.

Every once in a while the scammers are caught red handed and have to run away, abandoning their bewildered victims who are left with a stack of never answered questions.  Going back to the Larouche views, the risk of being caught selling conspiracy snake oil can be minimized by using a proxy(in Larouche's case, Tarpley), allies (Alex Jones) and setting up front groups.


The 9/11 Truth Movement is primarily a vehicle to push Larouche's theories on the September 11th attacks:  
   
LaRouche was the very first public figure to challenge the story that the 9/11 attacks were done by Bin Laden's Al Qaeda.
While interviewed by Dr. Jack Stockwell, he was commenting live during the attacks against the Twin Towers:
Stockwell: […]And that is that the Arabs don't have the ability to pull something of this level off. You feel pretty strongly about that?
LaRouche: I know that. I know the Arab governments. I've been talking to them directly or indirectly over some period. At least, the key ones. And they don't want this kind of thing. But I know who does want it.
Stockwell: Alright. Now, you were talking about possibly the idea of the Israeli government --
LaRouche: Or certain factions within it. 
 
LaRouche first called it a coup d'etat, an "inside job" with the help of the Israeli Mossad, and then blamed his "usual suspects", the Zionists:...
 LaRouche 9/11 Conspiracy Theory has also been relayed by an "ex-member"; Webster Tarpley (Website at http://www.tarpley.net/)

The 9/11 Truth Movement may also act as a vehicle to recruit potential voters for fringe Libertarian friendly candidates like Ron Paul, and a customer base to sell conspiracy crap to.

The radical far right is always looking for topical events to exploit.  Larouche is no different.   This was noted by others in the context of Larouchies trying to take over Leftist talking points, institutions and networks:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NoPoliceStateCoalition/message/4339
A number of the people already mentioned are associated with the thoroughly LaRouche- infiltrated Green Party. That infiltration is headed by none other than LaRouche ideologue and racist Lenora Fulani and her "psychotherapist" mentor and cult-leader Fred Newman. For more on LaRouche/Fulani/Newman log onto in particular www.dennisking.org

 Fulani, using the code word of "independent" politics, set up shop in the Independence Party through which she helped elect Michael Bloomberg twice. After she nauseated perhaps millions with her claim that Jews and masse are responsible for the murders of people of color, she got deposed by the IPNY, which only intensified her de facto takeover of the Green Party. That takeover was orchestrated by her henchpeople including "leftists" such as Paul Zulkowitz, Gerald Kann and George Tatevosyan , all of whom have been involved in criminal acts against me. All were involved in the succesfful effort to hand the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections to Cheney/Bush with their Nader candidacies. Fascists can only make political headway when social and economic conditions deteriorate as they inevitably do under right wing regimes such as Cheney/Bush. And so,  just like Adolf Hitler, they denounce the conservatives and split the left.

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NoPoliceStateCoalition/message/4352
 It appears, Jason K. that LaRouche is getting his name mentioned elsewhere, e.g. by the super-wealthy blog queen Arianna Huffington. As you know, most people even somewhat into politics write LaRouche off as a crackpot out of the past. Indeed, his tables bursting with "anti-Bush" literature, all LaRouche-generated, are for the most part ignored. I am less concerned with the out-and-out LaRouche cultists who sit at those tables. I am much more concerned with LaRouche's insidious army of "left" fifth columnists, plenty of of whom occu- py positions of power in and with the Green Party. These fifth columnists include, aside from the racists Lenora Fulani and psycho-pychotherapist Fred Newman, Geoffrey Blank...

  Others in the LaRouche "left" iniltration include Paul Zulkowitz, Gerald Kann, George Tatevosyan, Frank Morales, Les Jamieson, Carl Rosenstein, Harvey New- man, Gary Phaneuf, Pete Dolack, and Frank Luck, some of these characters camouflaging themselves as "anarchists."  Perhaps the mpost dangerous LaRoiche infiltration, however, is in the from of one Charles Lenchner, a yarmulke-wearing thug-wannabe who, in his capacity as a Jonathan Tasini supporting official of something called the Progressive Democrats of America, physically pushed me around at a peace event during the Senate campaign, is trying to parasite his way into the John Edwards for President campaign. It is also important to note the no-chance-at-all so-called "peace" candidacy of Dennis Kucinich is, in the person of the autocratic pseudo-leftist Charlene Barker, a LaRouche "split the left" operation. Tom Weiss 1/19/07

during the anti war protests in the Bush's presidency:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%E2%80%93September_11_anti-war_movement





 The movement (or movements) included an enormous variety of groups and individuals that could not be categorised as "left" in any conventional terms, who had a variety of reasons for opposition to the invasion of Afghanistan and later of Iraq. In addition to the many non-leftist Arabs and Muslims in the movement, there were also European nationalists uncomfortable with U.S. unilateralism (their numbers would greatly increase in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq). There was also an uneasy relationship with explicitly antisemitic groups who charged that the war was being waged on behalf of Israel; with the few, small right-wing anti-war groups; and with certain political fringe groups, such as the followers of Lyndon LaRouche.

This wasn't entirely unknown in progressive circles.  For instance in 2007 on a Green party list, someone tries to promote "truthaction", and is corrected on the list serve:

http://list.pacificgreens.org/pipermail/pgp-discuss/2007-July/009204.html

[discuss] Unite in Action for 9/11 Truth
John A. Murphy johnamurphy at comcast.net
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Hi Steve,

You do of course realize that this so-called 9/11 truth business is nothing more than a LaRouche-Tarpley invented red herring to draw otherwise well intended antiwar activists away from the pressing issue of the day -- ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

On July 4 in Philadelphia there was antiwar convention held because of a suggestion by Cindy Sheehan.  The LaRouche-Tarpley people hijacked the convention and in about two hours over 50% of the group were gone. What might've turned out to be a very unifying event to end the war outside of the two-party system was completely destroyed by these 9/11 "twoofers".

Here is what's important to know about 9/11.

1.)  It happened.
2.)  It was used by the Bush administration as causus belli.
3.)  The official explanation is most likely incorrect
4.)  The details of the event are likely to go unknown for at least 200 years
5.)  The suggestion that this was a "false flag" event is part of the LaRouche-Tarpley fascist/conspiracy theory insanity

Let's hear no more of this crap.  This group is for SERIOUS matters!

In Solidarity,

John
   ----- Original Message -----
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   TruthAction.org

  The Time is Now
  On the Eleventh Day of Every Month
  We Unite in Action for Truth

Some people might speculate the entire Truth Movement was one big distraction to derail the left, but that's implying agency and foresight not usually found in the far right.  Larouche and allies were as surprised as anyone at the sheer potential they had to benefit from the 9/11 attacks, their tired and worn police state the Jews rules the world fear mongering conspiracies being given a new lease on life, for as long as they could keep the con going.

But this time Larouche wouldn't do it alone.   The American Patriot Friends Network would act as a networking front, further blurring the source of the conspiracy propaganda and giving plausible deniability to people not so secretly working with racists and Neo Nazis:


Sunday, October 22, 2006


American Patriot Friends Network (APFN)


Who are they?

I have, for years, seen much material disseminated and picked up by APFN. At first I was a little apprehensive because of their use of the word patriot, because of the fact that most I have known that have used that word to describe themselves were pretty hung up on nationalism, guns, and whiteness.

Over the years, my opinion began to change and this had to do with the fact that they picked up some of my journalism and hosted it and this made me think, "They might be alright." Recently, however, someone on a mailing list that I belong to painted them with a brush of white power and I have to admit I was a bit taken aback by the mention of the name David Duke in conjunction with an email campaign that APFN seemed to be a part of. So, instead of jumping the gun in either direction, instead of leaping to conclusions about them or about the person that asserted that there was a strong element of racism to their outfit, I emailed them. I told them the situation and that the email was going out to a variety of people and that any answer to the charges levelled against them would be posted to exactly the same forums and individuals. I had special, personal concern over the fact that they host some of my material.

The first response was that readers needed to spend weeks poring over the gigs and gigs of materials that they hosted and find out for themselves. Their second response was an attachment of 500K of HTML, presumably that I and others might peruse it and make up our own minds. I was beginning to wonder, at this point, because I thought the charge serious enough to warrant a statement from these "patriots."

Then I got a third email asking which Eric Stewart I was. This I thought odd as they had hosted my materials for YEARS. I referred them to this blog, thinking it would prompt some memory. The response I got was, "So what is your problem?" It was becoming very obvious that they were avoiding answering the question. I could only surmise that they were afraid of making a statement because of an apprehension of alienating some sort of constituency.

 An astute observation.

There is a delicate balance Larouche drones and allies must do to not say anything explicitly anti Jewish(assuming they're still playing to a crowd of marks) and at the same time avoid denouncing  racism in a way racists, especially racist marks, don't take offense at.  Borderline comments will be hand-waved as "free speech", users calling to ban Anti Semites are dismissed as "drama".  Arguments on the list, real or stage managed, are used as "proof" the list is grassroots and tolerates dissenting opinion, equating racist propaganda with a difference of opinion.  This manipulative tactic is surprisingly effective with naive leftists too tolerant for their own good.

The listserve is hoping all the leftist subscribers who won't play ball will just leave quietly.  Ideally, they shouldn't have been invited in the first place.  But the fact of ultra right radical politics is, without periodically scamming leftists to carry water,  they don't have the raw numbers to carry a movement.  Only a handful of their own kids buy into their extremism.  They need fresh meat.  Expect the radical right to get more and more aggressive in the future as their numbers decline while at the same time the Internet offers more and more information for people to learn about them than ever before.

The September 11th attacks were a windfall for the radical right, providing fear based end times source material far beyond anything they could have imagined.     Larouche got the ball rolling, but by 2006 Alex Jones was expertly exploiting people..and their wallets... caught up in the "movement".  A new generation was convinced they were part of a 60's style Zeitgeist, only to be frustrated again and again when their "activism" led down dead ends.   Rhetoric aside, none of the Eyes Open "truth" leaders had any intentions of appealing to the mainstream, ie, actually changing the political landscape in real terms.   Adherents are encouraged to despise the mainstream media, or worse suspect "they" are in on it.  All theories are framed in extreme terms making the idea of working with the system impossible.  Instead organizers are encouraged to "hit the streets" and "spread the word".  911 truth "activism" resembled less a political force and more evangelicalism:  if enough people knew the Truth, people would "rise up" and over throw the "police state".

The "police state" as described doesn't exist.  It is a parody of the questionable militarization of many police departments across the as well as legislation(PATRIOT ACT)  that seems to support this generally unnecessary infrastructure.   The fact plenty of existing anti war groups had been challenging these trends is lost on "truth movement" adherents.  Nor did they take cues from effective political groups, instead substituting bellicose aggression guaranteeing their views would be further marginalized.

But that is exactly the result Larouche and other political cult leaders would prefer:  an army of supporters radicalized by rejection and so emotionally invested in the cult's propaganda, that, for all the talk of "sheeple"(people who refuse the cult world view), the adherents become "sheeple" themselves, rarely able to challenge the leadership or think outside the New World Order/Bilderberg paradigm they've been led down.  Everyone who disagrees is a Cointepro or disinfo agent.   The longer they stay involved, the more socially entwined and emotionally invested in the cult propaganda they become.  Even if they leave the "truth movement", they are likely to retain conspiracy influenced thought processes.

Those who start to have doubts after engaging in nasty cult tactics will find no support inside the organization and will be forced by their conscience to move on.  If their absence is explained, it will be in terms of "being gotten to" or "they were and agent all along".  The fate of Eyes Open scammers is  grim: once exposed they are exiled from normal mainstream culture, unless they completely repudiate and retract their behavior, which almost never happens.  Whatever grief they thought they were dealing out manipulating marks is dwarfed by the backlash of public opinion that they were manipulating people for Nazis in the first place.    One has only to look at a former Libertarian party luminary and closet Nazi to see this in action:

 According to an unsigned release circulating on the Internet, three bricks with "Shut David Irving Down" and "No Nazis" went through the windows of the MCL Cafeteria, which is said to have held regular gatherings of various local hate groups in the past, notably the Council of Conservative Citizens(CCC) and the pseudo-political party American Third Position. The release further notes that the resturant was booked by Matt Parrott of Carmel who head the white racist group Hoosier Nation and Janelle Antas of Indianapolis, a former Indiana Libertarian Party offical who has serves as Irving's personal assistant in the past.
Search for Janelle(Jaenelle) Antas' and her connections to Holocaust Deniers cover the first page of results. She knows this, but apparently thinks the sacrifice is worth it for the "cause":

 So please tell us Tristiana ?

Why do you continue to stay with this guy ? . . . bailing water on the Titanic, when it is perhaps time to either throw the captain overboard, or get on a lifeboat and head for a ship captained by someone who can navigate the icebergs
 I thought my question to you in response was clear enough.

Have you Googled me recently? The majority of employers Google prospective candidates. Do you think I'd even be granted an interview somewhere and a chance to dispel the libelous rumours that are floating around about me? In this economy, one should just be glad of having a job, especially someone like me who isn't likely to find another one even in a good economy. I have a killer resume, but at this point, I don't think it would matter what my skills and experiences are.


That said, despite David's flaws and the perils of working with him, I enjoy the autonomy and flexibility that I have. And while I don't really care about history, I am a big supporter of free speech and I would engage in free speech activism whether I was getting paid for it or not. I don't believe anybody should be silenced, no matter what their views are.


But if you have any suggestions as to how I can earn a decent living, I'm certainly willing to hear them
 Antas refuses to take responsibility, spinning her history of working with a Nazi as "libelous rumors".   Maybe she realized that wasn't going to wash.  Since then, word is she quit her job as Irving's assistant, married and moved to Australia. Thus ends the career of an Eyes Open conspiracy conartist. 



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, and therefore still be a potential commercial resource for the organizers who have their hands in all sorts of conspiracy pots.


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  It would also act as a way to share information quickly with various co travellers, ie, people who stood to benefit from the 911 cult propaganda:  Alex Jones, David Icke, etc.













Wednesday, November 6, 2013

Dick Eastman: Pathological Liar and Nazi lover crushes on Victronix

Dicky is a long time player in the conspiracy scene and not shy about  Holocaust Denial, uh, that is  "just asking questions."   This 2007 email from the 911 Nexus group has him linking copiously to Zundel's  "I'm being censored spreading Jew Hatred  crap", as well as the obligatory Rense links:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/9-11-NeXuS/conversations/messages/3371

Dick Eastman
Jul 28, 2007

note: this post also points out that recent Bush "law"  against in any way hindering US policy in Iraq  amounts to establishing a "thought crime" (more precisely an "a crime against expressing a "hindering"  thought")
 
 
Have you made any effort to investigate the question yourself, Andy McCracken, or are you just guessing that it is not so and asking us to prove it for you.  And if you have investigated, HOW DID YOU MISS IT???  Does this list ban people for Anti-Holocaust-Denial-Law Denial.  I have posted extensively on the holocaust being Zionist disinformation with full complicity of the governments which Zionism totally controls -- especailly German which is still in a sense under occpation by the Zionist victors of WWII.
 
I can present again the established facts of the holocaust lie  -- but first let us answer the question of whether hate laws exist.
 
But first, one little note:  Holocaust denial laws are an example of THOUGHT CRIMES -- the mainstay of all totalitarian dictatorships -- the proof of political slavery.  You will not that the Bush executive order that allows the government to sieze accounts and other property of people SUSPECTED of giving support (including intellectual support) to the enemy thus "hindering" the effort to subdue Iraq -- itself is a species of thought-crime law -- or it would be if it was legal  --  it is only law if the people bend down and take it, otherwise it is yet a nail-lined saddle of  treasonous tyranny that has yet to put on the as-yet-unbroken horse.  Which of us will get the inestimable honor of being the man or woman to stand in the breach against this this totalitarian uspurption of our right to share our minds with our countrymen.
 
Dick Eastman     postings
Yakima, Washington
Every man is responsible to every other man.  
 

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Now let's look at one particular case -- how did Zundel's case escape your notice???
 

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This quote is all a reader needs to confirm according to Dickless Eastman the Jews are behind not just faking the Holocaust, but controling post war Germany...somehow....

"I have posted extensively on the holocaust being Zionist disinformation with full complicity of the governments which Zionism totally controls -- especailly German which is still in a sense under occpation by the Zionist victors of WWII."
In his anti-semite forthing on the keyboard Dicky's spelling starts to go.  

Now Dicky has a new playmate:  Victoria Ashley of 911blogger.    At least he's writing love notes about her on his lists:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/frameup/conversations/messages/51144


Dick Eastman
Nov 4 2013  3:55 PM

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To survive Americans must domesticate their dollar. We'll never do that if we are tricked into thinking the dollar is "toilet paper" about to collapse and disappear.


2. What Kind of Girl Disagrees with Dick Eastman?
I just found a our-year-old "debunking" critique of my evidence-derived conclusion that the the Boeing witnesses say flying towards the Pentagon actually flew over the Pentagon while planted bombs went off and a much smaller single-engine plane or missle (AGMs and cruise/drone) struck below. The critique was written in August of 2009 by Victoria Ashley, shown below. As always not one 9-11 "truther" bothered to inform me that this critique existed.
After this point Dickless the Jew hater launches into a Tl;Dr detailed examination of Ashley the Agent's critical deconstruction of another CT group called CIT(Craig Ranke, Aldo Marquis, Dominic Dimagio, Rob Balsamo).  There is much drama and butthurt to go around of which, in the interest of saving space, only a sampling will appear:

"Victoria Ashely is one of a group of "false opposition" -- cover-up agents like Jim Fetzer and Alex Jones who obstruct justice to protect international organized crime that has gotten control of the American state apparatus and is conducting unconventional "Sun-tse" warfare against the United States with infiltration, sabotage and provocateur operations like 9-11. Who were the passengers of 9-11? Many of them appear to have been agents with false identities whose identities, but not their lives, were terminated with the 9-11 operation.
Before I rebut Victoria Ashley here is an article exposing some famous disinfo artists who were both reported "victims" of 9-11 and who have have become Truthers who have conspicuously been gatekeepers and promoters of bogus theories and evidence......"

"THE "9/11 TRUTHERS" WHO ARE 9-11 "VICSIM" LOOK-ALIKES

Have prominent "truthers" lent their faces to some "victims" in the 9/11 Memorials?

This post is to summarize a hypothesis which has emerged due to a series of empirical observations - featuring some bizarre 'coincidental' aspects. As crazy as this may sound (but 9/11 WAS undoubtedly a crazy affair), we may find some victims in the 9/11 memorials which share remarkable facial AND name analogies with some well-known characters at the forefront of the so-called "Truth Movement". (all of them being notorious ...ehrm... money-makers.)

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LUKASZ MILEWSKI (2001?) -----versus----- LUKASZ RUD(k)OWSKI (2009?) (Prison Planet spells name without the "k")


http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/people/3664.html ... /3664.html

This is what "MILE"means in Polish: "pleasantly" - "kindly" - "affably" - "heartily"
MILEWSKI - RUDOWSKI ....get it ?

Anyhow, looks like the Wearechange 'frontman' Lukasz is good at raising money...:

Paul Isaac(NY sentinel) wrote:

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"Eastman: Long before Ashley wrote her article I had argued very stongly and emphatically that each of the CIT arguements that Victoria Ashley lists above were indeed false. I stated that the gash cut in the top of the generator truck and the downed fence along the "light pole path" had to have been caused by the real killer jet (a cruise missile, or a drone fighter plane like the F-16 as the big plane flew to the North. Now as for the damage imprint in the side of the building I pointed out that the hold at column 14 was indeed wide enough to accomodate the fuselage of a Boeing 757 hitting at that location -- but I also pointed out, using many photos that are no longer shown much -- but you can see them at the Rense page mentioned above -- "

"As for the DNA identification, years ago I pointed out that when ever organized crime take over a city the first person they replace is the coroner and the forensic teams -- so that they will be able to get away with murder. You will notice all of the political suicides pronounced by coroners who reach that conclusions under the most improbable circumstances. A fake DNA report is very easy to produce when a conspiracy that has taken over Washington, that involves the conquest of many nations and trillions of dollars is at stake. Victoria Ashley is not that naive, obviously.


Victoria Ashley: And at this point, the doubts are just beginning. Given the complexity of such fakery and sleight of hand, most who attempt to confirm the full story end up at one of several dead ends in the scenario. The claim that so much evidence at the scene of the Pentagon was staged in advance, so precisely and amidst hundreds of people in all directions, simply to make it appear that the plane which approached the building had actually impacted it, strains credulity and logic."

"Eastman: All espionage agencies of big governments and the staffs of big organized crime that controls governments and corporations have groups capable of performing so-called "black-ops" which use not only every trick of visual deception but also the behavioral technology (for example anchoring, differential reinforcement, and conditioning tricks that distort the interpretation and reporting of what is seen. Black Ops work -- and people don't know that such technologys exist and that they do work -- and so they are vulnerable. Once again, is Vicoria Ashley that naive and ill informed. My guess would be that she is not."



Victoria Ashley: Thus, it is important to have a look at another possibility, another reality, in which the "no Boeing impact" claims had never happened in the first place, and instead -- rather than endless internal sqabbles of what that hit the Pentagon and easy media attacks about "conspiracy theorists" who think the plane never hit and the passengers were dumped into the ocean -- the many other glaring questions, anomalies and absurdities of the Pentagon attack story, essentially ignored by media and the 9/11 Commission, had had even a fraction of as much energy devoted to them as "no Boeing impact" claims.

What is that story, and what are those questions?

What CIT and many other no-Boeing-impact focused efforts have created is essentially a historical vacuum in which readers and viewers are disconnected from the original larger context of the attack and its aftermath, in favor of the hyped soap opera mystery in which an elderly cab driver's apparent role in the attack is central, rather than officials in Bush Administration who were in charge that day.


Eastman: Here is a case where one side or the other is guilty of laying a smoke screen of false argument to throw off those seeking the truth. Certainly the Citizens Investigation Team has done that, but what about Victoria Aslely or Dick Eastman? Which of us is "muddying the waters" with disinformation? Remember, we who first presented the thesis that no Boeing hit the Pentagon (Key Dewdney and myself for example) presented the no-plane evidence years before the CIT group showed up... "


"There has been no vaccuum. I have always since early 2002 been trying to put out exactly the evidence and implciations of that evidence that I am putting out now. Alex Jones, Carol Brouillet, Mike Ruppert, and many others -- including Jim Hoffman who suddenly and for no good reason backed away from my conclusions afterwards showing much less familiarity and honesty with my position than he showed when he was with me. At any rate -- I was first -- I was kept out at the gate as were a lot of other good men who eventually folded up and went back to their lives. I never gave up. The CIT group and Morgan Reynolds leaving the White House to join the no-planes-hit-the-WTC operatives are all black ops designed to bury or otherwise distract from the many conclusive lines of evidence that Eastman, Dewdney, Richard Stanley, Jerry Russell, Peter Wakefiled Sault, and others. The CIT group -- like the no-planers (at the WTC) and Pilots for 9-11 Truth are all distractions, phony investigators out their to mislead and to lead away for those trying to get out the real and conclusive evidence of the deceptive false-flag attack on the Pentagon.


And as for discrediting Taxi driver and witness Steve (Lloyd) England, I have accepted his story. Mark Bilk, another of the real investigators, phoned England and asked him about what he saw. England said he saw the plane but not the crash. He said that he wondered whether the plane had flown over the Pentagon. Englands story fits my analysis and was taken into account when drawing conclusions. It was the CIT group who came, confirmed by finding of planes passing north of the gas station (interviewing the same witness I had spoken with and corresponded with years before -- Sgt Lagasse) and then proceeded to put out this propostrous thesis that England was lying, that the poles were planted there etc. Yet Victoria Ashley -- ignoring the real Pentagon findings for all those years -- waits until CIT comes out with their bogus show-stealing absurd theories forgetting all about the investigator who fist uncovered the facts and who first drew the right and sensible conclusion. Only after CIT entered the scene does Victoria Ashley show up to "disprove the flyover" using only CIT to argue from. She mentions my name below but none of my findings and nothing about my conclusion which are so different from the straw man arguments so conveniently provided by Citizens Investigation Team."

"Eastman: All of these point to a job with the complicity of people in the highest postions of the Bush administration as well as Israel and dual-citizenship American Jews like Zakheim, Perle, Libner, Feith, Wolfowitz, Kissinger and many others. "

 So clearly that the no-planes hit the wtc, the CIT and perhaps (probably) Victory Ashley's contributions as well and all of the gatekeeping by Brouillet Ruppert, John Judge and others had to be fielded. Again, all of the facts Ashley presents I was puting out nearly every day and certainly many times a week years before she appears on the scene to attack my conclusions by arguing against the staw-man mockery of my position represented by the CIT investigators. (Although it is my opinion that Aldo Marquis was honest in all this, and simply used by the real CIT fraudsters who ran the CIT show.

"While the Citizen Investigation Team appears to be a "grassroots" team, it actually consists of Aldo Marquis and Craig Ranke and is the "Citizen Investigation Team LLC". Indeed, the formation of a limited liability corporation would seem to be necessary given the methods engaged in by CIT of recording individuals without their knowledge and reframing witness statements to fit a conclusion opposite to what they believe themselves to be describing."

"The obvious outcome of claiming that witnesses are proving a point which they themselves object to, is shown in a communication from a witness and Pentagon Police Sgt. William Lagasse, who wrote to a website which published claims he had described a flyover (before CIT made the same claims) in 2003"

"I live with what I saw everyday of my life, It has taken a long time to deal with the images, screams and anger I felt that day, to be honest your website angered me to the point I wanted to just curse and rant and rave but I decided this would be much more helpful in quelling misconceptions.
The Statements of Sgt. William Lagasse AFPN; June 24, 2003
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/"


Eastman: When APFN forwarded a letter to him from Lagasse I immediately put out the letter and contacted Lagasse by email. I asked him for a detailed account of what he saw, where he say it and from what angle. He insisted of course that the plane struck the Pentagon. That was understandable. But in three letters and two or three phone calls I definitely established that Lagasse saw the starbord side of the plane (on the pilot's right when he is seated in the plane) -- I made sure that Lagasse and I agreed on which side was starboard and which side was port - we did. He stated that the plane flew north of him. He assumed the crash was caused by the plane he saw -- we both understood that from the beginning. I never tried to change his mind. I only wanted the facts. Years later the Citizens Investigation Team -- checked up on my witness and my conclusion. The got Lagasse's account that the plane passed north of the Citgo station -- and his surprise at learing that the first pole downed was south of the station. It is what Lagasse saw, not what he thought happened, that matters. And that is what I used. My approach to witnesses was much more careful, systematic and yes, scientific, that CIT. Lagasse, despite what he may think happened has confirmed the flyover by what he says he saw -- and by what other witnesses that I did not know about confirmed -- including another military policeman and a gas station attendant. My account is the only one that reconciles what most witnesses reported with the story of physical events told by wreckage (light poles, fence, generator trailor etc.) -- and Victoria Ashley dismisses my conclusions without ever investigating the specific case I built from several independent and conclusive lines of evidence.



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And thank God for that!

From this we learn, according to Dickless Eastman,  :

-Takes personal credit for creating the No-Plane Hit the Pentagon "theory":
 Remember, we who first presented the thesis that no Boeing hit the Pentagon (Key Dewdney and myself for example) presented the no-plane evidence years before the CIT group showed up
 -Uses the promilitia, "patriot" network APFN:

When APFN forwarded a letter to him from Lagasse I immediately put out the letter and contacted Lagasse by email.
-Is mad CIT stole his thunder:

Yet Victoria Ashley -- ignoring the real Pentagon findings for all those years -- waits until CIT comes out with their bogus show-stealing absurd theories forgetting all about the investigator who fist uncovered the facts and who first drew the right and sensible conclusion.
Believes Jews are behind the attacks:
All of these point to a job with the complicity of people in the highest postions of the Bush administration as well as Israel and dual-citizenship American Jews like Zakheim, Perle, Libner, Feith, Wolfowitz, Kissinger and many others.
Thinks Ashley is a  "gatekeeper", along with other CT scammers/dupes:  
So clearly that the no-planes hit the wtc, the CIT and perhaps (probably) Victory Ashley's contributions as well and all of the gatekeeping by Brouillet Ruppert, John Judge and others had to be fielded.
And (very important)  claims not to know about or have been informed of Ashley's  critique, until this email in Nov 2013:

The critique was written in August of 2009 by Victoria Ashley, shown below. As always not one 9-11 "truther" bothered to inform me that this critique existed.

Dick Eastman is a Liar.

The Article is called "To Con  a Movement" and was published Aug 1, 2009.  It can be read at 911 Review:   911review.com/articles/ashley/pentacon_con.html
And Eastman knew about it, and sent emails, as part of a forward, about it to his fellow Holocaust denial losers in 2012 on 9-11-Nexus:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/9-11-NeXuS/conversations/messages/17328

********* 
----- Original Message -----
From:Dick Eastman
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 11:17 PM
Subject: David Ray Griffin and Richard Gage compromised - in their
denial of the Pentagon evidence and witness testimony

In Yakima it's still eleven years after
9-11 -- and so I will put out one more post on that
topic.
I have found a few people who share my view
of the Pentagon attack -- I quote them below discussing Richard Gage and
David Ray Griffin.
But first you will read Richard Gage's
rejection of the "Citizen's Investigation Team" investigation which found
witnesses confirming the flyover thesis I reached years before the CIT took up
the question. Richard Gage has been sent my analysis of the situation even
before the CIT people joined the discussion. He has been sent enough
information to know that the criticisms of Jim Hoffman, Victoria Ashely, Legge,
Gregg Roberts, Chandler and Hill do not apply to my work. Richard Gage has
written to me stating that he refuses to get involved with questions of who
might be responsible for 9-11. Now he has let himself be surrounded by
people who have persuaded him to drop the best evidence. He of course is
the great leader of the movement. I am a nobody who writes every day,
giving away my articles, and gets no response -- I who have been
rejected precisely because I do lead and I am not afraid to state my conclusions
come what may.
So I find people who agree with me.
You can read them below. But ironically, not one has heard of me. At
any rate, I wish them well, because I at least, know that they are
right.
Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington

"The 9/11 Truth movement will be more likely to succeed in its effort to
educate the public about the Pentagon by focusing on those areas of greatest
agreement. " -- Richard Gage
The "Truth Movement" has rotten
leaders.
Jim Fetzer, Kevin Barret, David Ray Griffin
and Richard Gage
Richard Gage Completely Withdraws Support from CIT

by Richard Gage
In early 2009, I watched the “National Security Alert” video by the
Citizen Investigation Team (CIT) where recollections of 10 eyewitness accounts
of the attack on the Pentagon were presented (of many more that were
interviewed). These accounts included the witnesses’ recollection of the path
being taken by the plane prior to impact. The path that many of them recalled
was to the north of the former CITGO gas station. Based on these few accounts
CIT presented its case that the plane flew over the Pentagon since the damage
trail was not consistent with the north path.
My main focus relative to 9/11 had been on the destruction of the
three World Trade Center skyscrapers. I had not been able to spend much time on
the Pentagon issue. I was initially impressed by CIT’s presentation and, more
than a year and a half ago, provided a short statement of support for their
efforts.
After making my statement I became aware of more details of the CIT
witness accounts as well as the rest of the compelling eyewitness testimony that
is available. The vast majority of eyewitness accounts refute the CIT flyover
conclusion, as they entail that the plane hit the Pentagon or was flying so low
it could not miss.
I was also surprised to learn that 12 of the witnesses that CIT
interviewed (including six witnesses to whom CIT refers to as north path
witnesses) were in a position to see the Pentagon and all 12 stated that they
saw the plane hit the Pentagon. It was clear from this that CIT used improper
investigative methods. CIT used and presented only those portions of their
witness reports which fit their conclusion. The preponderance of CIT’s own
evidence in fact supports the conclusion that the plane impacted the Pentagon.
(See Summary and Analysis of “National Security Alert” and other works listed
below for these and many additional witness statements that describe the plane
as clearly impacting the Pentagon).
Because of these concerns I provided new statements in December 2009
and January 2010 pointing out that my previous statement of support should not
be interpreted as an endorsement of their conclusion that the airplane flew over
the Pentagon. Despite these statements, CIT has continued to publish my original
statement and characterize it as an endorsement of their flyover conclusion. I
am hereby now on the record clearly as NOT supporting the CIT investigation at
all. In addition, I insist that CIT delete my name from its web site in any and
every context in which it might give the impression of support or endorsement of
their efforts from me.
I base my present position also on a number of blogs, papers, blogs,
and videos that have shed light on the Pentagon Flight 77 issues and on CIT’s
work. These papers should be among those studied by anyone seeking the full
truth about these matters. Most of these works analyze additional evidence and
come to different conclusions than CIT does.
Relevant critiques of CIT and their National Security Alert
include:
Summary and Analysis of
“National Security Alert”, Chris Sarns, Feb 5,
2011
9/11
Pentagon Witnesses: They Saw the Plane Hit the Pentagon,
Video by Jeff Hill, June 14, 2010
Overwhelming Evidence
of Insider Complicity, David Chandler and Jon Cole, Dec
2010
“Debating”
What Hit the Pentagon by Exaggeration, Name-calling, and
Threats, Gregg Roberts, Jan 2011

And critiques that examine CIT’s earlier work “Pentacon” are helpful
as well:

Google Earth Exposes Pentagon Flyover Farce or Critiquing
PentaCon, by Jim Hoffman, July 2009

To Con a Movement: Exposing CIT’s PentaCon ‘Magic Show’, Victoria
Ashley, July 2009
Relevant peer-reviewed papers (posted on Journalof911Studies.com):

Flight
AA77 on 9/11: New FDR Analysis Supports the Official Flight Path Leading to
Impact with the Pentagon, Frank Legge, (B.Sc.(Hons.),
Ph.D.) and Warren Stutt, (B.Sc.(Hons.) Comp. Sci.) January 2011
What
hit the Pentagon? Misinformation and its Effect on the Credibility of 9/11
Truth, Frank Legge, (B.Sc.(Hons.), Ph.D.), July 2009
(updated Feb 2010)
There was a time in the four years after 9/11 when I simply assumed
that the official story of the destruction of the WTC Twin Towers on 9/11 was
true. One could say that I “endorsed” the official story based on what I knew at
the time, but as I learned more, my opinion of what happened to those buildings
evolved radically. John Maynard Keynes, father of Keynesian Economics, once
said: “When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?” A similar
evolution has occurred in relation to my view of CIT’s work.
I strongly recommend that people who care to research what happened
at the Pentagon take personal responsibility for forming their own conclusions
by acquainting themselves with a wide range of analysis done by people who have
come before them rather than jumping to conclusions based on a skewed selection
of evidence and argument, or being unduly influenced by any type of authority
figure. Use your own discernment, based on your use of the scientific method to
arrive at a coherent theory that you can confidently stand behind.
One of the authors cited above, Frank Legge, PhD., admonishes us to
adopt a “prudent approach” to the Pentagon piece of the 9/11 puzzle. In the end
he wisely advocates the “precautionary principle” which is to “assert only what
we can truly know,” given the contradictory evidence, misinformation,
disinformation, and lack of information from official sources, and the
difficulty in verifying much of it, years after the fact and with inadequate
resources.
Legge concludes that there is prima facie evidence that “the official
explanation of the event at the Pentagon is false and that a cover-up exists. He
concludes as well this negative hypothesis: that there is “no proof that a 757
did not hit the Pentagon.” And, since officials are holding the cards (videos)
as to what did or didn’t hit the Pentagon, Dr. Legge’s recommendation is that
investigators “take care to avoid publicly asserting that the 757 did not hit
the Pentagon”.
We can all agree that no hijacked plane should have been able to
violate the airspace of our nation’s capital and hit the headquarters of the
most sophisticated defense system in the world – an hour and a half after the
assault began on the Twin Towers.
The 9/11 Truth movement will be more likely to succeed in its effort
to educate the public about the Pentagon by focusing on those areas of greatest
agreement.
Sincerely,
Richard Gage, AIA

********
Ashley's article is misdated, but the link is the same: 
To Con a Movement: Exposing CIT’s PentaCon ‘Magic Show’, Victoria
Ashley, July 2009


Why is Dicky lying?  

One reason is the 911 Nexus yahoo list is private.  So he probably doesn't think anyone can find out.  And this is where many of the "truther" scams blaming Jews or anti-Semites "agents" are propagated ...because the  911 Nexus is a hot bed of Holocaust Denial trash.

The entire list was exposed sometime last year , revealing more than a couple of scammers:
How Jews are a threat to Humanity:
http://911nexus.blogspot.com/2012/11/9-11-nexus-crypto-fascist-yahoo-list.html

The anti-Semitic hoax the Protocols of Zion:
http://911nexus.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-protocols-of-zion-toolkit-parts-1.html

A fake front to trap anti racist "truthers"(dupes):
http://911nexus.blogspot.com/2012/11/911-nexus-2-front-group-and-antifascist.html
And all about the list owner, a tech geek from Silicon Valley who fled to South America, the safest haven for Nazi wannabes.      

Dick Eastman's Nazi connections still don't explain why he's pretending this is the first time he's seen Ashley's piece.   It isn't like he doesn't know about her;  she knows about him:
Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject:     Reply with quote Dick Eastman is a long term disruptor and has been around since the days of Webfairy. He is an anti-semite whose main contribution was to "catch" the sane people who decided they were pretty sure a missile didn't hit the Pentagon and ensnare them with his "Killer Jet" theory -
"The theory's postulated overflight of the Pentagon by Flight 77 strikes many -- especially people familiar with the geography of the area -- as absurd. Vocally promoted only by Eastman, it has remained relatively sidelined." http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/theories/eastman.html
This was the basis for the film, the Pentacon, the hoax claim that the plane flew over the building and "no one noticed."
Ashley's criticism of anti-Semites sounds strained now the website she moderates, 911blogger, is being run by someone(Tilton) who if not an anti-Semite, had no problem pushing "Jews did it" cult propaganda in the past, but this isn't about Ashley or 911blogger.  It's about Dicky.

Dicky wants readers to believe he just discovered Asheley's piece.   Are they preparing for a conspiracy con tango show? At least one CT/dupe pugged or fell for this crap, along with some truly disturbing "vicsim" garbage :
http://therebel.org/news/eastman/dick-eastman-rebuts-victoria-ashley-what-kind-of-girl-disagrees-with-dick-eastman/

 Or is he just crushing on Vicky?

Final note on Vicky:  she likes to bleat about frauds and hoaxes, even linking to CT blogs :

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/01/first-reaction-to-financial-crisis-report-whats-the-point/70410/

>>I think this report confirms what many already suspected. That the experts don’t know what caused the crises anymore than the man on the street.
Give me a break.
Nobel prize winning economists George Akerloff and Joseph Stiglitz, former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan, leading economists such as Robert Shiller, Anna Schwartz, James Galbraith, former lead S & L regulator William K. Black, former Tarp overseer Elizabeth Warren and many other leading financial experts say that CRIMINAL FRAUD was the primary cause of the financial crisis.
They also say that failing to prosecute that fraud will prolong the crisis, interfere with the ability to stabilize the economy, and cause future crises.
They make it clear that the most fraud destructive fraud starts at the top: with the heads of the biggest banks, biggest accounting firms, and biggest corporations.
Experts in fraud as a cause of economic crises have developed a set of terms to describe this process, including "looting", "control fraud", "accounting fraud" and "regulatory capture".
However, none of these terms appear in the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission Report . . .
http://georgewashington2.blogs...

The full link is http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/01/inside-scoop-on-financial-crisis.html

and a search will real many 9/11 "truth" posts.   Now we know 911 "truth" is a fraud, what the hell is Vicky whining about?  She's got no problem with frauds, lol. 
Looks like Vic and Dick have more in common than they thought...